my first engine
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Re: my first engine
got the last bits fitted yesterday.........................
when i got it it looked like this
now it looks like this
some problems still to iron out to get it running right but at least i got it to start
see it here on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jTjrNLS-aY
not too bad for a first attempt
when i got it it looked like this
now it looks like this
some problems still to iron out to get it running right but at least i got it to start
see it here on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jTjrNLS-aY
not too bad for a first attempt
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Well done Neville, you must be very proud, you've done a first class job. It sounds to be running ok no bad missing etc so is it jusr fine tuning and mixture to sort out? And that looks to be a good size workshop you have there, I'd soon have that filled
Stu.
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found a problem with the governor arm fouling sorted that and ran the engine for 25 min this morning
3 short vids on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ83K-0egc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSJHzGUu1VU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8H-WiDNka4
meanwhile the trailer is on the road and the box on the front is done just need to fit the winch now
3 short vids on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ83K-0egc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSJHzGUu1VU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8H-WiDNka4
meanwhile the trailer is on the road and the box on the front is done just need to fit the winch now
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I have to say well done on your first engine rebuild you must be very happy. The trailer is looking ready for work now it's a shame all the rallies are over for this year! So what have you got planned for over the winter? or is it feet up in front of the fire
Stu.
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most of the literature i have read says that the Petter A1 was fitted with a zenith carb, mine came with a solex fitted which looked original..........
so when i saw a very good example of the correct zenith for sale on eBay at a reasonable price i bought one for it........................
a sharp eyed look at the mounting flanges reveals they are at 90 degrees to each other
a closer look at the inlet manifold shows 4 lobes for carb mounting .............
i now believe that Petter bought a batch of which ever carb was available at the time and drilled the inlet manifolds to suit which ever carb they could get at the time.
so the solex will go back on the engine and the zenith in the spare bits box
as they say ............win some lose some
so when i saw a very good example of the correct zenith for sale on eBay at a reasonable price i bought one for it........................
a sharp eyed look at the mounting flanges reveals they are at 90 degrees to each other
a closer look at the inlet manifold shows 4 lobes for carb mounting .............
i now believe that Petter bought a batch of which ever carb was available at the time and drilled the inlet manifolds to suit which ever carb they could get at the time.
so the solex will go back on the engine and the zenith in the spare bits box
as they say ............win some lose some
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Zenith carbs was fitted on all sorts of engines and tractors so may not of been off a petter ... my pet tvo fergie had a zenith carb on it which was a standard vanguard engine
hope you get sorted soon mate
regards , matt
hope you get sorted soon mate
regards , matt
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the one i bought was off a Petter A1, if you look at the inlet flange in the last image you can see where it would be mounted if the studs were drilled 90 degrees further round.
my point is the books are wrong...................both types of carbs were originally fitted to the same engines.
iv'e seen lots of A1's with solex carbs fitted ...............my mistake was not noticing the mountings were different
my point is the books are wrong...................both types of carbs were originally fitted to the same engines.
iv'e seen lots of A1's with solex carbs fitted ...............my mistake was not noticing the mountings were different
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hob wrote:the one i bought was off a Petter A1, if you look at the inlet flange in the last image you can see where it would be mounted if the studs were drilled 90 degrees further round.
my point is the books are wrong...................both types of carbs were originally fitted to the same engines.
iv'e seen lots of A1's with solex carbs fitted ...............my mistake was not noticing the mountings were different
no chance making a adapter plate ?
matt
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the solex is ok ...............i just wanted to fit the right one so it was original..........my guess now is the solex is the original.........so i'll just put it back on and use the other zenith one on something else.......i may have another old Petter coming soon anyway.
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Least you have something to get it working ... did you manage to sell the corsa in the end ?
least your be all set for next years show season
least your be all set for next years show season
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matt86_wd2 wrote:did you manage to sell the corsa in the end ?
no, its still for sale, a local car place are trying to sell it for me on a commission basis so at least i don't have to store it until it sells.................the second hand market is always slow this time of year.
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Neville glad to see your still tinkering about, it's like you say the manufacturers would fit what they could get there hands on at the time or at a better price, I don't think anyone can complain after such a great job you've done in restoring this engine, a real credit to you, WELL DONE for your first attempt.
Good luck with the sale of your car, if petrol prices go up it will help as people down size but still want a a car with a few extras.
Stu.
Good luck with the sale of your car, if petrol prices go up it will help as people down size but still want a a car with a few extras.
Stu.
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Neville what about this, the fitting (I think) looks right but you need to check linkages etc to see if it's the correct type.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZENITH-CARBURETTOR-/170760301777?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item27c21b6cd1
Stu.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZENITH-CARBURETTOR-/170760301777?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item27c21b6cd1
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Stu thats the same as the one i bought, 90 degrees out on the connecting flange
it now seems mine should have a solex from new so i'll put that back on as there's nothing wrong with it anyway.
it now seems mine should have a solex from new so i'll put that back on as there's nothing wrong with it anyway.
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Neville that flange is staight to the air intake where as yours is 90 degrees out or am I looking wrong.
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stationary stu wrote:Neville that flange is staight to the air intake where as yours is 90 degrees out or am I looking wrong.
Stu.
Stu you are looking at the wrong one, the one marked 26-FV is the solex that fits and is 90 deg to the intake
the one i bought is the same as your link both are inline with the intake and don't fit.
i'm happy with the solex now i know its original
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made a few tweaks to a few things to get it running a bit better, also been trying to get a Lister domestic pump running with it, with no luck at all
a short vid of it running.
a short vid of it running.
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Lister D............ Lister domestic water pump
Petter A1 .......................Union pillar drill
National F type 1935.............wood planer
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Someone else just had a problem, try what they did.
http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t4797-help-needed-on-my-domestic-pump-please
Stu.
http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t4797-help-needed-on-my-domestic-pump-please
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now i got there
this weekends show is still on
other things from our workshop that will be there, the bosses gypsy caravan
painting finished today
an 1820's hobbyhorse that arrived as a pair of forks and a broken wheel, modeled by the new owner a well known local cycle collector
it all started with this
really pleased with turning that pile of rust into a show engine .......as a first attempt i'm really pleased with how its turned out, it's been over 30 years since i quit engineering but the memory lingers on
this weekends show is still on
other things from our workshop that will be there, the bosses gypsy caravan
painting finished today
an 1820's hobbyhorse that arrived as a pair of forks and a broken wheel, modeled by the new owner a well known local cycle collector
it all started with this
really pleased with turning that pile of rust into a show engine .......as a first attempt i'm really pleased with how its turned out, it's been over 30 years since i quit engineering but the memory lingers on
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argosy pump
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Hi Neville..
i was just going through the posts of you engine from the start
well what can i say,that's a proper cracking job mate...
you should be proud of it and the way its turned out....
the boo top caravan and the bicycle are lovely as well
would love a boo top my self,but its the room to store it..
who knows whats round the corner or at the next sale....
keep up the great work mate..
mike...
i was just going through the posts of you engine from the start
well what can i say,that's a proper cracking job mate...
you should be proud of it and the way its turned out....
the boo top caravan and the bicycle are lovely as well
would love a boo top my self,but its the room to store it..
who knows whats round the corner or at the next sale....
keep up the great work mate..
mike...
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What some lovely toys you love the horse drown caravan well done
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mike d wrote:Hi Neville..
i was just going through the posts of you engine from the start
well what can i say,that's a proper cracking job mate...
you should be proud of it and the way its turned out....
the boo top caravan and the bicycle are lovely as well
would love a boo top my self,but its the room to store it..
who knows whats round the corner or at the next sale....
keep up the great work mate..
mike...
Thanks Mike i'm really proud of the way my first engine turned out ..................the guys in the workshop believe we can do almost anything ................I'm the youngest permanent member at the age of 60.. we have a contract blacksmith and a contract sign-writer , my older brother is a coded welder............... the "boss" is a 70 year old retired wheel-wright ..........Jim is a general craftsman ......aged 76 ...........me ? i used to be an engineer recently into radiological protection at a nuclear power station, medically unfit to work .................due to spinal injuries to my neck
we operate under the name of the geriatric creche which suits our needs to avoid watching daytime tv
and provides us with an interest beyond the simple needs of passing the time waiting for ..............what some would have us believe would be a better life
Neville
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it sounds like you have all the tradesmen you need there Neville...
and a lot of the old school tradesmen at that..
it is nice to see so many of you doing what you enjoy...
keep up the good work mate....
wish i could do engines that well
mike...
and a lot of the old school tradesmen at that..
it is nice to see so many of you doing what you enjoy...
keep up the good work mate....
wish i could do engines that well
mike...
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