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Post by dreamweaver123 Wed Jun 26 2019, 12:57

Hi,

Can anyone recommend a small turned product engineering company that can provide me with a needle valve as per attached photo.

Thanks,DavidBrass fuel needle valve for Crossley P1060 Eb184810

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Post by Woodsman Wed Jun 26 2019, 17:41

Chiefy sounds like your man. Wink but I'm sure there are other lathe drivers on the forum who may be able to help.

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Post by dreamweaver123 Wed Jun 26 2019, 17:45

That’s great news Paul,for which I thank you,I’ll check out his email address and send him a PM.


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Post by dreamweaver123 Thu Jul 04 2019, 13:12

Paul,

I have sent 2 PM’s to Chiefy,no replies,do I need to make a certain number of posts before I can send PM’s?


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Post by chiefy Thu Jul 04 2019, 15:39

Hi David,
Got your PM not sure wether i can help you, a lot would depend on the threads although i have a lathe i cannot cut a lot of the threads as i do not have the change wheels to set the screw cutting i cut most of my threads with dies so again depends on the thread sizes if i have the dies then its possible.
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Post by dreamweaver123 Thu Jul 04 2019, 18:22

Hi Chiefy,

Many thanks for your reply.

There are 3 brass threads on the valve,2 external,(1 on the actual needle and 1 on the gland nut) they need to screw into the valve body,the 3rd thread is internal gland nut onto the actual needle.
I am happy to post the needle valve and valve body to you if you can assist me with the manufacture of new,as being so low down on the front of the engine,very susceptible to damage,this was how I found it on the drive of friend,I have tried to straighten,but is seized half way along the thread so I cannot easily adjust the fuel flow,I have some thread gauges "somewhere",I’ll see if I can dig them out and perhaps shed a little more light on the thread sizes,if not would you be prepared for me to post to you?

Thanks again,

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Post by chiefy Fri Jul 05 2019, 10:10

Hi David,
The valve would need to be apart so that i can see how its made and how it functions,see if you can get it apart then a decision can be made also let me know the diameter and T P I of all threads.
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Post by dreamweaver123 Fri Jul 05 2019, 11:14

Hi. Chiefy,

The valve action is straight forward,the main needle should screw into the large body of the valve up to its seat and the gland nut used to tighten down.

I have measured the threads and sizes as follows:

30TPI X1/4” (needle valve)
24TPI X 1/2” (gland nut external)
30TPI X 1/4” (gland nut internal)

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I trust the attached photo’s will enhance my descriptions.

Regards and thanks,

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Post by Robotstar5 Sun Jul 07 2019, 19:46

There's a chap on another forum I'm on that loves a challenge, I've posted your pics and he's interested.

Contact: john@doubleboost.video (let him know Robotstar5 on the mig welding forum passed on the details)

This is an example of his work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX2jDoUguIw

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Post by dreamweaver123 Sun Jul 07 2019, 20:34

Robotstar5,

Very much appreciate your contact,I checked out the video you indicated and John is very much of my style and obviously capability.

However,I am in discussion with Chiefy at the moment,awaiting his decision as to whether or not he is able to assist me,but should he feel not able to assist me,I shall then contact John via his email
for which you have kindly given me.

My thanks,

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Post by chiefy Wed Jul 10 2019, 10:49

Hi David,
Got your info i would say you definitely need to have these screw cut on a lathe and i do not recognise the thread form from the sizes you quote i dont have any taps or dies in these sizes to match the TPI it makes me wonder what thread form they are.
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Post by dreamweaver123 Wed Jul 10 2019, 12:18

Hi. Chiefy,
Not a problem,I have managed to source another engineer,I was just waiting for your reply before I made the decision which way to go,so to speak,but thanks for your interest anyway.

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Post by Robotstar5 Thu Jul 11 2019, 18:04

dreamweaver123 wrote:Hi. Chiefy,
Not a problem,I have managed to source another engineer,I was just waiting for your reply before I made the decision which way to go,so to speak,but thanks for your interest anyway.

Regards,

David

Did you contact John or have you found someone more local?.

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Post by dreamweaver123 Thu Jul 11 2019, 18:56

Robotstar5’

Hi,I have contacted and arranged with John to carry out the necessary,my friends from the U.K. will be taking the valve back with them to post to John from the U.K.,this lessens the chance of being lost in mail here in Portugal!

Thanks for the intro,

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Post by Robotstar5 Thu Jul 11 2019, 19:07

That sounds good, hopefully we will see a "Sunday night nightcap" video of it being made.

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Post by Robotstar5 Sun Jul 28 2019, 23:11

Just watched the videos and it may run into a 3rd one for the knurled cap, I liked the way he modified the die holders so he was happy with the thread fits.

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Post by dreamweaver123 Mon Jul 29 2019, 08:21

Hi,John sent me a picture of the finished new gland nut,I’m off to Tomar shortly to collect my 1957 Ferguson FE35 cylinder head that has been skimmed,when I get home I’ll check out the videos too,where do I find them,YouTube?

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Post by Robotstar5 Mon Jul 29 2019, 21:57

Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwLK7ZcN7Nk

part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONu3NsThuDg

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Post by dreamweaver123 Mon Jul 29 2019, 22:20

That’s great,many thanks Robotstar5,watching those videos was like a masterclass in machining!

...and thanks for the introduction too.

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Post by Woodsman Tue Jul 30 2019, 09:35

Wonderful to watch. Thanks for posting Stuart.

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Post by Robotstar5 Tue Jul 30 2019, 10:20

I like the fact that John has the "it's got to do the job and look right" approach rather than "that'll do" as demonstrated by him having 2 or 3 attempts before he was happy with the product.

If you like the Doubleboost videos click on the "subscribe" button (doesn't cost anything) but it does give him a few pence from Youtube advertisers which he ploughs back into making the videos.

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Post by Robotstar5 Mon Aug 05 2019, 22:37

Part 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orwqmkuEF8Y

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