Floor mounting
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mattblack
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Floor mounting
Hi again everyone!
I've now got some bits and pieces together and startee experimenting with putting my Lister LR1 to work as a 12V dc generator and it's time to ask for some advice.
The engine is to stand inside the barn, with the exhaust going out through the wall. In order to keep the noise down and the fumes out of the building, I need a fairly sizeable exhaust system.
At present, the engine and alternator are bolted to a pallet, which is tethered to the wood of the barn to stop it wandering, but the vibration is still quite severe and shakes even the incomplete exhaust system apart quite quickly.
So, what advice can you offer? Should I attempt to remove the vibration altogether (bolting to the concrete floor..?) Or accept it and decouple the exhaust system (flexible hose/rubber bushes etc..?)
Thanks in advance, I have tried searching the subject here but with no luck. Apologies if I missed it!
I've now got some bits and pieces together and startee experimenting with putting my Lister LR1 to work as a 12V dc generator and it's time to ask for some advice.
The engine is to stand inside the barn, with the exhaust going out through the wall. In order to keep the noise down and the fumes out of the building, I need a fairly sizeable exhaust system.
At present, the engine and alternator are bolted to a pallet, which is tethered to the wood of the barn to stop it wandering, but the vibration is still quite severe and shakes even the incomplete exhaust system apart quite quickly.
So, what advice can you offer? Should I attempt to remove the vibration altogether (bolting to the concrete floor..?) Or accept it and decouple the exhaust system (flexible hose/rubber bushes etc..?)
Thanks in advance, I have tried searching the subject here but with no luck. Apologies if I missed it!
Norlander- Born to be wild
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Re: Floor mounting
Hi again, just bumping the post in case it was missed.
My concern is about whether trying to solidly mount my engine is a good or bad idea; my only experience is with car and motorcycle engines, which are generally allowed some movement through bush mountings.
My concern is about whether trying to solidly mount my engine is a good or bad idea; my only experience is with car and motorcycle engines, which are generally allowed some movement through bush mountings.
Norlander- Born to be wild
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Re: Floor mounting
I personally wouldn't think it was good idea, the vibration has got to go somewhere and if it's that bad I can't see solid mounting lasting long. I would look at stiff rubber mounts and something like this in the exhaust: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293958025923?hash=item44714382c3:g:HdoAAOSwt35gArcd
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Re: Floor mounting
Thanks Matt, I did suspect as much. I've been looking at those flex hose exhaust things locally.
Reckon I'll probably switch things around, so as to have the shortest path to the outside and get one of those things in at the first available point after that.
Reckon I'll probably switch things around, so as to have the shortest path to the outside and get one of those things in at the first available point after that.
Norlander- Born to be wild
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Re: Floor mounting
You could try mounting it on some anti vibration feet?
https://www.gmtrubber.com/products/machine-feet/
https://www.gmtrubber.com/products/machine-feet/
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Re: Floor mounting
For the exhaust I have used flexible stainless steel 'exhaust pipe' (from an eebay supplier and was quite impressed with it - and you can silver solder it.
Alan
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Re: Floor mounting
Maybe you should try to find the reason for the excessive vibration? Something bent, out of line? Big ends worn?
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Re: Floor mounting
Wow, thanks everyone, this thread has suddenly exploded!
I like the look of those mounts, will have to try finding something local though; getting stuff here from the UK is hell since brexit.
I don't think the vibration is excessive, it's just that with the current arrangement there's a fairly long exhaust run from the engine to the outside wall, so any movement is amplified by that length.
That's why I thought I should check in here to figure out which tactic I should go with: firm resistance or yielding accommodation.
If folks are interested, I could make a short video before changing anything... if so, what would be the best way? Youtube link? Or..?
I like the look of those mounts, will have to try finding something local though; getting stuff here from the UK is hell since brexit.
I don't think the vibration is excessive, it's just that with the current arrangement there's a fairly long exhaust run from the engine to the outside wall, so any movement is amplified by that length.
That's why I thought I should check in here to figure out which tactic I should go with: firm resistance or yielding accommodation.
If folks are interested, I could make a short video before changing anything... if so, what would be the best way? Youtube link? Or..?
Norlander- Born to be wild
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Re: Floor mounting
Folks certainly will be interested, (they're all engine nuts, you know, they may deny it; but it's true, they are.).
But I have know idea what would be the best way, or how to do it.
Good luck.
But I have know idea what would be the best way, or how to do it.
Good luck.
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Re: Floor mounting
Alanengine wrote:For the exhaust I have used flexible stainless steel 'exhaust pipe' (from an eebay supplier and was quite impressed with it - and you can silver solder it.
Alan
Are you talking about the same woven thing that was mentioned before, or the stuff that is sold in lengths for making alignment adjustments?
Norlander- Born to be wild
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Re: Floor mounting
Just my 2p worth, I wonder if the spiral one above is more suitable for when gentle bends are required and the 'woven' type better for allowing for vibration?
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Re: Floor mounting
Must admit the spiral type didn't bend as 'tight' as I thought it was going to.
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