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Post by Robotstar5 Sun May 26 2019, 13:55

Popped up on the local FB marketplace for a few quid and only 5 minutes away, no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy

Turns over OK and just seems to be missing a fuel pipe.

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Post by blue cat Sun May 26 2019, 14:20

Robotstar5 wrote:.......................... no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy


They make quite good door stops Laughing Laughing Sleep

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Post by Appletop Sun May 26 2019, 17:26

[quote="blue cat"][quote="Robotstar5"].......................... no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy

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They make quite good door stops Laughing Laughing Sleep [/quote]

Not big enough for a boat anchor.... tongue

Seen a few bolted to the top of Climax, Domestic and Argosy type pumps as well as some of the slightly bigger Blake pumps, make a good display with some thought.
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Post by Robotstar5 Sun May 26 2019, 17:58

blue cat wrote:
Robotstar5 wrote:.......................... no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy


They make quite good door stops Laughing Laughing Sleep

Damn good idea, I've been using a Villiers A15 to hold the shed door open when I'm working in there, it can have a break from door duties Very Happy

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Post by Robotstar5 Sun May 26 2019, 18:03

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Robotstar5 wrote:.......................... no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy


They make quite good door stops Laughing Laughing Sleep

Not big enough for a boat anchor.... tongue

Seen a few bolted to the top of Climax, Domestic and Argosy type pumps as well as some of the slightly bigger Blake pumps, make a good display with some thought.

Food for thought, I've seen this one at a few shows including Welland (owner must be related to the engine steward to get a lowly SIF on the lines there Very Happy )

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Post by Appletop Sun May 26 2019, 18:15

That's the sort of thing. This is the whole "Entry ticket" engine debate, those who have there nose so far up their own ar** and own "Exquisite" engines look down on this sort of thing but to me a SIF on a pump compared to a 1902 Hornsby sitting there doing nothing I reckon for the punters worth the SIF and pump wins.
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Post by Robotstar5 Sun May 26 2019, 21:09

I'm normally a "paying punter" when I take my camera to the shows and this sort of thing isn't very good, I wish I'd stepped back a bit further just to show how much room a non-running JAP 2A takes up No

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Post by georgineer Sun May 26 2019, 21:45

I haven't come across the Suffolk Iron Foundry make before. Did they make their own engines, or were they somebody else's re-badged?

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Post by Robotstar5 Sun May 26 2019, 23:06

georgineer wrote:I haven't come across the Suffolk Iron Foundry make before. Did they make their own engines, or were they somebody else's re-badged?

George

They made their own engines for many years, mainly for horticultural equipment (lawn mowers) but I believe they used a Briggs & Stratton design under licence for some of them.

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Suffolk_Iron_Foundry_(1920)

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Post by Appletop Sun May 26 2019, 23:36

[quote="georgineer"]I haven't come across the Suffolk Iron Foundry make before. Did they make their own engines, or were they somebody else's re-badged?

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As Robstar said it was a B&S design but they made the engines in Stowmarket, not that far from where I grew up, when I was a kid everyone had a Suffolk Punch or Colt mower and when they died we made the engines into go karts etc, really were a strong engine.
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Post by blue cat Mon May 27 2019, 21:33

I bought an early Suffolk type 1A today at a car boot for just £2. All there apart from the fuel tank cap. So somthing to hold my shed door open.

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Post by Robotstar5 Mon May 27 2019, 22:18

I had a play today and have no spark Crying or Very sad  does anyone know if the flywheel nut is left hand thread please?

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and if there are any manuals out there as all I seem to find is links to lawnmowers with SIF engines

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Post by Garak Tue May 28 2019, 07:44

Robotstar5 wrote:

and if there are any manuals out there as all I seem to find is links to lawnmowers with SIF engines

I've got a manual that does have a section covering the engine which I can share if you like.

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Post by Robotstar5 Tue May 28 2019, 09:44

Garak wrote:

I've got a manual that does have a section covering the engine which I can share if you like.

Martyn

That sounds promising, thanks

PM sent.

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Post by chiefy Tue May 28 2019, 10:20

I don't know why people knock these little engines they are robust and useful little engines and us older guys can handle them.
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Post by dursley dog Tue May 28 2019, 11:03

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Post by blue cat Tue May 28 2019, 19:18

Robotstar5 wrote:I had a play today and have no spark Crying or Very sad  does anyone know if the flywheel nut is left hand thread please?

and if there are any manuals out there as all I seem to find is links to lawnmowers with SIF engines

IF have the SIF engine manual, but it's not been scanned yet. Might be availailable if you ask them nicely.

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Post by Robotstar5 Tue May 28 2019, 22:01

blue cat wrote:
Robotstar5 wrote:I had a play today and have no spark Crying or Very sad  does anyone know if the flywheel nut is left hand thread please?

and if there are any manuals out there as all I seem to find is links to lawnmowers with SIF engines

IF have the SIF engine manual, but it's not been scanned yet. Might be availailable if you ask them nicely.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Post by Andrew1971 Wed May 29 2019, 19:18

One of them was my first four stroke i ever played with when i was 13 or 14 year old.
hmm cant remember where it went.
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Post by Robotstar5 Fri May 31 2019, 23:17

Found out the nut is a L/H thread and it looked like nut had been staked to stop it coming undone.

I dug out the battery impact driver, doesn't get a lot of use, but ideal for jobs like this

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Everything seemed to check out OK with the meter, but the points were quite dirty so will get dressed once I find my points file

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Post by Robotstar5 Sun Jun 16 2019, 22:39

Had a couple of hours today (between rain showers) points dressed and gapped so put the flywheel back on and we have a spark Very Happy

A squirt of "easy start" down the inlet manifold and it fired so put the carb and tank on and it ran.

Petcock is leaking fuel all over the recoil mech so I need to repair or replace it, anyone recognise the make so I can look for spares.

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Not sure if it's original as the outlet is 5/16" and the carb has a 1/4" stub.

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Post by blue cat Mon Jun 17 2019, 16:24

I think the Ewarts brass horizontal pull-on, push-off type is the original. Fuel outlet should be same size as the carb inlet as the fuel pipe just pushed onto each. One of my chores as a lad was to mow the lawn in season with an early suffolk colt. Seems a long time ago now ......

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Post by Robotstar5 Mon Jun 17 2019, 19:08

blue cat wrote:I think the Ewarts brass horizontal pull-on, push-off type is the original. Fuel outlet should be same size as the carb inlet as the fuel pipe just pushed onto each. One of my chores as a lad was to mow the lawn in season with an early suffolk colt. Seems a long time ago now ......

Thanks, I'll have a look for a replacement instead of trying to repair this one.

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Post by Bob Of Bonsall Mon Oct 26 2020, 11:35

Robotstar5 wrote:Popped up on the local FB marketplace for a few quid and only 5 minutes away, no idea what I'm going to do with it Very Happy

Turns over OK and just seems to be missing a fuel pipe.

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Decent little engine of about 1hp, intended for a lawnmower but adaptable for other uses.

A quick edit. The Old Lawnmower Club site has a number of manuals for mowers using this engine and variants of it but as a new member I am unable to post a link, but a search on "old lawnmower club suffolk punch manuals" should get you there.


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Post by StuartTurnerSteve Mon Oct 26 2020, 12:04

My first engine direct coupled to a lucas dynamo.

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