possible first project but which one?
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Re: possible first project but which one?
nutgone wrote:garethmob wrote:ahhhh lol ok, i think i will take them off, polish them up a bit! any ideas what the top one is about?
Military contract info I expect. Probably won't mean much to you or me, but could well get you some info on the engine, & what it did, later on.
is there a database with the info on it? so i can check?
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Re: possible first project but which one?
No idea I'm afraid. I have a military engine (WW2 American generating set) & I eventually found out it's use on a military forum, but it took a hell of a lot of googling! (If that's a real word ).
Your enamel paints are easy to find, but don't let anyone talk you into buying Hammerite, it's rubbish. There is a much better "One Coat" (or self undercoating) paint called Rustoleum, but it's expensive. I still reckon, for maximum durability, you can't beat the proper way, a decent primer & proper engine enamel on top.
That Teamac primer is good stuff, as used by the trades on stuff like iron railings & in agriculture. Whatever you put on top is up to you, but I just use the Bradite these days, as I can get it easy enough & it's very reasonably priced. It usually goes on well too, although I did have one tin that gave me trouble, but that was mixed at a different shop (just needed thining, but I often thin my paints down a bit anyway, especially in hot weather).
A word on colours. Most paints are available in all the colours. You pick them from 3 main charts, you've got the RAL colours & then there's the 2 main BS charts (I forget the number codes now). Unless you know exactly what colour you want, be very careful choosing from a chart, especially one on line. Every time I have picked from a chart the paint I get is too bright, even when I've looked at a proper colour chart card in the shop. So if you are unsure, then always go one shade darker in my humble opinion.
Best of luck. I haven't had a good look at your pics yet, will have to do that tomorrow now.
Your enamel paints are easy to find, but don't let anyone talk you into buying Hammerite, it's rubbish. There is a much better "One Coat" (or self undercoating) paint called Rustoleum, but it's expensive. I still reckon, for maximum durability, you can't beat the proper way, a decent primer & proper engine enamel on top.
That Teamac primer is good stuff, as used by the trades on stuff like iron railings & in agriculture. Whatever you put on top is up to you, but I just use the Bradite these days, as I can get it easy enough & it's very reasonably priced. It usually goes on well too, although I did have one tin that gave me trouble, but that was mixed at a different shop (just needed thining, but I often thin my paints down a bit anyway, especially in hot weather).
A word on colours. Most paints are available in all the colours. You pick them from 3 main charts, you've got the RAL colours & then there's the 2 main BS charts (I forget the number codes now). Unless you know exactly what colour you want, be very careful choosing from a chart, especially one on line. Every time I have picked from a chart the paint I get is too bright, even when I've looked at a proper colour chart card in the shop. So if you are unsure, then always go one shade darker in my humble opinion.
Best of luck. I haven't had a good look at your pics yet, will have to do that tomorrow now.
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I use there primer
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Re: possible first project but which one?
Gaz I think you need to slow down a bit first LOL. Wait till it's running before changing the oil in case you need to strip it down you could end up wasting it. Take the air filter off an un-cease the choke so it's fully working. A normal bit of thin rope should do you as a starter for now just tie a bit of wood at the end. The hardest bit is getting in behind the flywheel to clean/check the points but I'll let someone with a bit more knowledge tell you the best way to do that.
As for colour it's your engine paint it what ever colour you want and don't let anyone tell you different you saved it from scrap that's all that matters.
A fuel tank for a villiers is not to difficult to pick up on ebay just try and get the brackets at the same time as they are normally the difficult parts to find unless you can make some.
Hope you enjoy your engine,
Stu.
As for colour it's your engine paint it what ever colour you want and don't let anyone tell you different you saved it from scrap that's all that matters.
A fuel tank for a villiers is not to difficult to pick up on ebay just try and get the brackets at the same time as they are normally the difficult parts to find unless you can make some.
Hope you enjoy your engine,
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stationary stu wrote:
As for colour it's your engine paint it what ever colour you want and don't let anyone tell you different you saved it from scrap that's all that matters.
Hope you enjoy your engine,
Stu.
Quite right too. Anything I said above (IE: black barrel silver head) was only to give you ideas. If you like blue, paint the whole thing blue.
There may well be engines you really want to paint in original colours, & if that's the case we'll help you find out what those original colours are meant to be.
I would still like to know, just out of interest, what colours Villiers painted their engines.
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Atco painted the Villiers engines green but was that the original Villiers colour?
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As far as colour goes, bottom line its your choice. But in my mind, this being an engine of war in my mind it deserves to be in its war colours.garethmob wrote:
also what were the origional colours of these engines (all models) this is a dark green....... i would like to do a blue but not if its out of place.
also there was a interesting plaque on the top with contract infomation, is this normal?
thanks guys:)
Gaz
To plate is an MOD/War Department Equipment ID plate
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Re: possible first project but which one?
hello guys
spent the day messing with her! actually got her started on um *cough* *cough* break and clutch cleaner *cough* *cough* need to get a fuel tank as i wasnt able to get her to run on her own through the coke bottle couldnt get a syphon.
also could some one help, my exaust keeps rattling its self off the engine, i think the screws are imperial (i only have metric) as they wouldnt hold (either that or i need to retap the holes)
i also scraped away alittle bit of paint and it looks like she was blue under neath.........
iv decided on a colour any way, this colour ish. only as i have a spray can here full of it and i do like the colour.(when i had to repair my old KA before i bought the merc)
im glad she was working though:)
also any one able to show me what the starting stap looks like, neally broke my arm and wrist a few times starting it with rope
thanks guys
Gaz
spent the day messing with her! actually got her started on um *cough* *cough* break and clutch cleaner *cough* *cough* need to get a fuel tank as i wasnt able to get her to run on her own through the coke bottle couldnt get a syphon.
also could some one help, my exaust keeps rattling its self off the engine, i think the screws are imperial (i only have metric) as they wouldnt hold (either that or i need to retap the holes)
i also scraped away alittle bit of paint and it looks like she was blue under neath.........
iv decided on a colour any way, this colour ish. only as i have a spray can here full of it and i do like the colour.(when i had to repair my old KA before i bought the merc)
im glad she was working though:)
also any one able to show me what the starting stap looks like, neally broke my arm and wrist a few times starting it with rope
thanks guys
Gaz
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