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Post by mattblack Tue Nov 26 2019, 21:21

I picked these 2 up recently on ebay, seller was a nice guy with a collection of old horticultural machines and Villiers engines. I'm sure he said he was a member on here?

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The one on the left has 'W&J' cast into it, so I'm guessing it's a Williams and James:
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Williams_and_James

I'm planning on making a small 2-wheel trolley and powering it with the Villiers MK12 I'm doing.

The other one is an 'H.E.C.':
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/H._E._C._Compressors_and_Engines

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Post by tony RA Wed Nov 27 2019, 00:11

Looks like the one on the right is Anti Clockwise one but both very nice

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Post by mattblack Wed Nov 27 2019, 21:09

tony RA wrote:Looks like the one on the right is Anti Clockwise one but both very nice

How can you tell?

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Post by tony RA Wed Nov 27 2019, 21:27

The spokes in the pulley blow air though the fins on the cylinder to keep it cool and if it has oil dipper in the sump it wont get the right amount of oil if driven in the wrong rotation

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Post by mattblack Sun Jan 19 2020, 21:29

I've started stripping the HEC one. The oil dipper is just a plain rod so I don't think direction of rotation will be a problem. The valves were stuck with rust and the piston rings are gummed up but hopefully everything will clean up ok.

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Post by mattblack Sat Jan 25 2020, 12:32

Got it apart, had a struggle with the con rod as the only suitable puller I've got wouldn't shift it so I resorted to using a chisel as a wedge between the rod and crank. Rod came off leaving the bearing on the crank pin, rod was slightly bent but straightened out OK. Bearing is fine so it can stay where it is. Another struggle with the crank retaining nut, again bearing is fine so it can stay together, will just mean painting the housing is a bit more awkward.

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Post by mattblack Sun Feb 09 2020, 21:06

Well with storm Ciara ( Rolling Eyes ) raging I decided it was safest to stay in the garage today...

I'd already got most of the paint off the pulley with paint stripper, finished it off with the whirly wheel in the grinder and sandpaper.

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Couple of coats of primer on.

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Post by mattblack Sun Mar 01 2020, 21:23

Got it all back together today.

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Sounds like an asthmatic duck when turned over, I'm hoping fitting an air filter will cure that. I have the fitting from the scrap Bristol compressor I had...
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Watch this space...

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Post by mattblack Tue Mar 10 2020, 21:19

Plan B, found a better tin.

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Post by dunitrong Tue Mar 10 2020, 21:38

Will you be putting anything in side the tin to act has a filter? I made one ages ago and put some wire wool in with a little oil run into the wire wool. I like your idea Arthur

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Post by mattblack Wed Mar 11 2020, 07:43

dunitrong wrote:Will you be putting anything in side the tin to act has a filter? I made one ages ago and put some wire wool in with a little oil run into the wire wool. I like your idea Arthur

I'm going to put some sponge or maybe one of those 'scrunchy' shower things in it. If it was going on an engine I would oil it but I think it there is a chance it would just blow it out of the other side.

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Post by mattblack Sat Mar 21 2020, 21:27

Pretty much done, just got to make a trolley now...

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Post by mattblack Mon Mar 30 2020, 17:50

As I can't go anywhere I've cracked on with the trolley, luckily I got the wood a while ago and had various bits of metal in my stash...

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I think I'm going to refine it a bit with an aluminium plate for the engine to sit on so it moves more easily to tension the belt.

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Post by dunitrong Mon Mar 30 2020, 18:03

That is a nice unit. I have one to do myself but its way down list.

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Post by mattblack Sun Apr 05 2020, 08:57

Done a bit more.

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Wheels are off a 3-wheel walker, I would have liked to have used some older style ones but they were my favorite price... Very Happy

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Post by mattblack Sun Apr 12 2020, 17:20

Got the handles made up today.

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Post by mattblack Fri Apr 24 2020, 21:15

Pretty much done apart from a shakedown run and maybe touching up some paint. I did the trolley with 3 coats of satin teak floor varnish as I had it lurking on the shelf.

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Post by Woodsman Sat Apr 25 2020, 09:58

Very tidy! Thumbs Up

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Post by dunitrong Sat Apr 25 2020, 11:48

like that a lot! Nice green.

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Post by mattblack Sun Apr 26 2020, 12:55

Had a play with it yesterday, problem is the engine is flooding and stalling. I checked the float height as per the manual and the needle valve seems to be shutting off if I blow through the fuel inlet. Being off a cultivator the carb would have had a throttle cable to raise the slide, this was replaced by the wire you can see in the photo. The governor operates a separate butterfly in the inlet pipe. I have now discovered that the fuel needle is adjustable in the slide to vary the mixture so I will have another play.

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Post by A Lister Sun Apr 26 2020, 14:06

It's looking very smart, hope you get it running OK soon.

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Post by mattblack Sun Apr 26 2020, 15:11

Thanks for the nice comments, I enjoyed doing this project while I can't get to my garage to work on my car (I could go and not see a soul but it's not worth the risk of being pulled IMHO).

I meant to say re: the carb that I'm planning on using a clamp (a pin from a 13a plug should do) to hold the wire up so I can set and hold the engine speed.

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Post by Foden Sun Apr 26 2020, 15:49

A nice job that. I have a compressor that I keep meaning to do something with. I will have to get my thinking cap on, but not at the moment as until I can get my locks shorn it aint going to fit! Embarassed

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Post by A Lister Tue Apr 28 2020, 00:35

Foden wrote:A nice job that.  I have a compressor that I keep meaning to do something with. I will have to get my thinking cap on, but not at the moment as until I can get my locks shorn it aint going to fit! Embarassed

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Tell me about it; I was 3 weeks overdue for a haircut when lockdown happened... a few more weeks of this and I'm going to look like Cousin Itt from the Addams Family!

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Post by Woodsman Tue Apr 28 2020, 15:23

A Lister wrote: Tell me about it; I was 3 weeks overdue for a haircut when lockdown happened... a few more weeks of this and I'm going to look like Cousin Itt from the Addams Family!

I'm thinking of weaving in some nuts and washers ala Keith Richards / Capt Jack Sparrow.
I reckon I could carry off the head band as well.
I suppose we ought to get back to Compressors - sorry. Smile

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