Three done One to go

Hi Fellows, I've got three Lister D's up and running after a fifty year or so sleep in a secluded corner of the workshop. One more to go.
The tank fixings on the the one to be restored looks a bit "hill run" and not sure if the tank original or not? I'm sure the tanks securing straps are homeward bounders. At least this Lister is complete.  
The trolleys are for maintenance only and it makes them easy to shift around in the workshop, I'll start by knocking up one more trolley for the latest project.
I'll also need to make up some silencers and probably some proper trolleys.  

I'm pretty sure this is the wrong tank as I note form other folks photos of a lister 'A' here on the site that the flat bottom of the tank should side on the cast brackets.
Can anyone point me to a picture of a early Lister D like mine so I can see the tank layout.
Thanks.

I cant supply a photograph immediately but I can tell you that the tank is to large and the flat base would sit on the brackets with the filler cap on the top radiused side, the pipe would be in the flat side, the original tank would be slightly smaller. If you put up the serial no I could supply more accurate info.

Maryalice

Thanks Maryalice. The engine about to get a going over id a 13D2 2Hp @ 1000RPM
Serial No 108577

One of the others shown in the photo i.e. the one with the rusty flywheel is a 12D Serial No 95389 also 2HP but at 700 RPM. This one had the cast tank support brackets which were badly broken therefore I converted it to the later type of tank and securing straps.

Can anyone please help me with photos or better still photos and dimensions of a original early lister D tank, that's the tanks that sits flat on the early type cast iron tank support brackets.

Chuff, sorry for not getting back, we've had problems with our smart meter so been having long chats with British Gas and doctors appointments for my wife, tomorrow I can measure and photograph a tank for you.

Maryalice

Thanks Maryalice hope you got things sorted with British Gas and the missus is sorted out with the doctors appointments no easy task there I'm sure.
I got a bit of a disappointment today when I stripped off the old fuel tank as it turns out that the tank support brackets are not the original cast ones but rather poorly fabricated steel copies.  The engine would have had the cast brackets right enough as there is no upper tank strap holes as found on the later engines. I previously fabricated a tank mounting frame for the other earlier 12D engine. I could have drilled and tapped tank strap holes in the top of the block (as the later engines have) but didn't want to do that.
So now I guess I'll watch ebay for a decent tank coming on the go. I could use the tank as shown in the photos but it would look a bit odd I think.  
I've ordered up 'Paragon' undercoat and Mid Brunswick green engine enamel and hopefully I'll find the time to do a good paint job on this engine.

Next job on the engine will be to remove the rather odd little pulley. I can see me having to weld on three lugs or a ring for the puller legs to get a hold of. See photo.

chuffchuff wrote:Can anyone please help me with photos or better still photos and dimensions of a original early lister D tank, that's the tanks that sits flat on the early type cast iron tank support brackets.

Can't help with dims, but here's a couple of pics of a Spec 11 tank if that's any good?

Hi Stuart Thanks for the response.
Is that a very early Lister D you have shown?
I think my Listers should have had two individual cast iron angle brackets that bolt on to the cylinder block rather than the type of one piece casting as you have.
As I hold little or no hope of finding the correct individual cast iron type brackets I'll go ahead and fabricate a tank mounting frame as I've done on another engine I have. I'll still need to find a decent condition tank though as the one that was on the engine is a big scruffy thing.

Chuff, I bought a set of new brackets a few years ago that had been made by an engine man, keep your eyes out at rallys

Chuff Chuff,

I hope the following helps, I have found an original set of brackets, which need a repair but I've yet to find my newly cast ones, if I do find them they maybe available but I wont have an answer until next weekend.
On the drawing I wrote full size on the end section because I traced around the tank but of course it wont be in the picture

Many thanks for the drawing. I kept the brass filler and outlet fittings from a totally U/S tank so I guess I could fabricate a new tank if I can find the spare time. I'd also need to make up a pair of steel support brackets as the ones that were on the engine are really rough.
Please let me know though if you do have a pair of cast brackets that could be salvaged.
I'm in no hurry really as the engine has sat here unloved for around fifty years or so.

I removed the cylinder head today for a look. The cylinder bore is in excellent condition with no signs of wear or corrosion so I don't expect it will need much to make it a runner. I haven't removed the mag yet but hopefully it will have a spark I've been lucky with the other lister D engines mags, only renewed the condensers as a matter of course.

Is it a side shaft magneto drive.

chuffchuff wrote:Hi Stuart Thanks for the response.
Is that a very early Lister D you have shown?

It's a 1929 Spec 11D2T s/n 87802 Bruston lighting set.

Hi Maryalice. Yes the one I'm currently restoring is a shaft drive magneto. The mag and coupling is there in place although I haven't tried it for spark as yet.

I have another 'D' that is also shaft drive mag type, I mounted a later type tank on that one as the cast brackets and tank were missing.
The magneto drive was missing but made up a drive and used a bit of rubber hose with hose clips for a mag drive coupling it works well.

That's a common fix, I'll find some more info for you.

Maryalice