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Troy Garden Tractor with mk12 Villiers engine

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Post by karamac Fri Nov 19 2021, 15:11

This is my latest wee project. Apart from new main bearings and any other internal parts needing renewed or replaced, it will remain with an oily rag patina.  If anyone can help me with dating the engine or machine then it would be very much appreciated SmileTroy Garden Tractor with mk12 Villiers engine P1070514
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Post by Appletop Fri Nov 19 2021, 16:28

Like that. Bet that was fun used in anger....
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Post by Woodsman Fri Nov 19 2021, 16:34

Hi and a warm welcome to the forum. Nice little project you have there.

Tricky to date Villiers engines accurately. Have a look at this thread - towards the bottom you will find some info on date stamps on the tinwork.

https://ukengineforum.forumotion.com/t9508-villiers-v-engine

Good luck.

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Post by karamac Fri Nov 19 2021, 19:40

Thank you Woodsman :-) The engine is now stripped so once I have it all cleaned up tomorrow, I'll have a close look for any stamps.

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Post by mattblack Fri Nov 19 2021, 21:30

I'd say possibly 50's/early 60's as it has the earlier type carb?

I have workshop manual covering the MK12 in PDF form, if you PM me your email I will send you a copy.

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Post by Alanengine Sat Nov 20 2021, 09:17

Hi, my mk25 had a date stamped on the flywheel which I think is fairly common.

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Post by karamac Sat Nov 20 2021, 10:16

mattblack wrote:I'd say possibly 50's/early 60's as it has the earlier type carb?

I have workshop manual covering the MK12 in PDF form, if you PM me your email I will send you a copy.

Thanks for the offer mattblack :-) I've just bought a photocopied one on ebay :-(

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Post by karamac Sat Nov 20 2021, 11:34

Alanengine wrote:Hi, my mk25 had a date stamped on the flywheel which I think is fairly common.

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Hi Allan, The only marks on the flywheel are 46 and villiers cast into the webb and 801 , small w, and a letter F Troy Garden Tractor with mk12 Villiers engine P1070516
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Post by blue cat Sat Nov 20 2021, 13:52

Oooo.... very uncommon, not many of those about.

You have aTroy Tractivator made by Troy Agricultural Utilities Ltd of London, about 1948-1954.

The best source of information is the vintage horticultural and garden machinery club.
https://www.vhgmc.co.uk/

If you join you will get access to advertising brochures on this machine, and also able to use their forum for further information, but I have included some free stuff below.

Sometimes also called the Troy Brushcutter, when a large rotary cutter was attached to the bolts on the front and driven from the pulley on the engine. Yours would also have this attachment.

Troy Garden Tractor with mk12 Villiers engine Troy_t10

Sorry about the orientation, I can't get it to go upright. Before some wag makes a comment, yes they were also advertised for sale in Australia.

Also lots of info in these two threads:
https://www.vhgmc.co.uk/forums/topic/troy-tractorvater/

https://www.vhgmc.co.uk/forums/topic/troy-tractivator/

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Post by Robotstar5 Sat Nov 20 2021, 15:56

Here you go...

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Post by karamac Sat Nov 20 2021, 23:24

[quote="blue cat"]Oooo.... very uncommon, not many of those about.

You have aTroy Tractivator made by Troy Agricultural Utilities Ltd of London, about 1948-1954.

Sometimes also called the Troy Brushcutter, when a large rotary cutter was attached to the bolts on the front and driven from the pulley on the engine. Yours would also have this attachment.

Thank you for the info Blue Cat :-)
That's a lovely looking machine you have !  I was originally intending to keep my machine unrestored but am now in two minds whether to paint it or not. Sadly,  I don't have the brushcutter attachment  Sad .

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Post by blue cat Sun Nov 21 2021, 17:46

It's not my machine karamac, found it on the internet.

Thank you Stuart for rotating the photo.

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