Starting tidy-up of Fairbanks Morse 'Z'
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Starting tidy-up of Fairbanks Morse 'Z'
I've started the tidy-up of my recently acquired 1920 Fairbanks Morse ZA 3HP
I wanted to change a few things like: the trolly, the wooden one it came on was a bit rickety so luckily I had a nice all metal steerable trolly so with the help of a family member, and after a lot of puffing and blowing we transferred the engine to the all metal one.
It appears to have had been painted a couple of shades of Green during it's life neither of which I like, so I am going to repaint it in a much darker shade of Green. I did some research and chose 'Connaught Green' (GN18).
I've removed all of the small parts and have painted them which just leaves the main engine castings and flywheels to do.
The engine is mechanically sound with no play in any bearings, plenty of compression, and a fat spark from the magneto and apart from the exhaust silencer it has all of it's original parts.
One small problem remains, the trolly has some exposed holes where previous engines / equipment have been fixed in the past and I want to cover these holes with a hardwood, hinged lid tool box, so if anyone has anything suitable please get in touch, something around twelve inches square and around six inches in hight would do nicely.
I will post more pictures during the tidy-up and a video when I get it running.
A previous owner had decided to highlight some parts of the engine in bright red, why?
The flywheels are somewhat pitted making paint removal more difficult.
Two previous shades of Green can be seen here.
Here are some parts painted in my chosen colour:
I wanted to change a few things like: the trolly, the wooden one it came on was a bit rickety so luckily I had a nice all metal steerable trolly so with the help of a family member, and after a lot of puffing and blowing we transferred the engine to the all metal one.
It appears to have had been painted a couple of shades of Green during it's life neither of which I like, so I am going to repaint it in a much darker shade of Green. I did some research and chose 'Connaught Green' (GN18).
I've removed all of the small parts and have painted them which just leaves the main engine castings and flywheels to do.
The engine is mechanically sound with no play in any bearings, plenty of compression, and a fat spark from the magneto and apart from the exhaust silencer it has all of it's original parts.
One small problem remains, the trolly has some exposed holes where previous engines / equipment have been fixed in the past and I want to cover these holes with a hardwood, hinged lid tool box, so if anyone has anything suitable please get in touch, something around twelve inches square and around six inches in hight would do nicely.
I will post more pictures during the tidy-up and a video when I get it running.
A previous owner had decided to highlight some parts of the engine in bright red, why?
The flywheels are somewhat pitted making paint removal more difficult.
Two previous shades of Green can be seen here.
Here are some parts painted in my chosen colour:
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Re: Starting tidy-up of Fairbanks Morse 'Z'
Nice finish on the painted parts, what brand of paint did you use?.
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Robotstar5 wrote:Nice finish on the painted parts, what brand of paint did you use?.
Paragon Paints engine enamel, hand brushed using a Purdy paintbrush.
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I bet Fairbanks Morse never got a finish on the crank guard like that
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blue cat wrote:I bet Fairbanks Morse never got a finish on the crank guard like that
The finish on that part is mainly due to the fact that there was NO rust on the outside surface of the guard for some reason unlike most of the rest of the engine which has suffered over the years and as can be seen from the flywheels, funnily enough the inside of the guard (protected from the elements) was affected by rust and has not come out as nicely as the outside.
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Almost there but with
When I purchased this engine I did see it running and at the time it sounded OK if not a little loud but when I started it it's now making a noise that sounds like gears grinding, or when I review the video it sounds like gas blowing past the piston. Now, there seems to be plenty of compression and when the engine is stopped, the plug removed, and the engine turned over as fast as I can on the flywheel only the usual sound of gears meshing normally is heard, nothing seems to be binding and the engine turns over smoothly. The magneto has a couple of thin aluminium packers between the base and the engine which is keeping the mag drive gear teeth from bottoming out in the drive gear. The gears have been treated with Rocol open gear grease and all of the other metal to metal surfaces have either been greased or oiled when I put the engine back together after painting.
Here is the engine running, please feel free to give me a diagnostic on what you think is causing the sound, Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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The only think of is it's the trolly look's it's been made of bent sheet metal so amplifying
the noise the engine making it louder then it is.
Andrew
the noise the engine making it louder then it is.
Andrew
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Andrew1971 wrote:The only think of is it's the trolly look's it's been made of bent sheet metal so amplifying
the noise the engine making it louder then it is.
Andrew
Um, it was not on this trolly when I heard it running before I purchased it (it was on a wooden one) so you may be on to something, the trolly is very well made though but it is all steel construction.
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Re: Starting tidy-up of Fairbanks Morse 'Z'
Agree with whats been said above, it does sound like the noise is in sync with the crank/piston throw, whats your plans to deaden the steel, could you bolt a peice of wood underneath out of sight, with the base fixing bolts to stiffen the steelwork,
I had to look real hard to see if the base really is metal, it looks like wood,
I had to look real hard to see if the base really is metal, it looks like wood,
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Sounds a bit like my old Witte engine and others I have heard which I believe is due to the construction/setting of the air breather on the carburettor.
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Re: Starting tidy-up of Fairbanks Morse 'Z'
Maybe a piece of old conveayer belting or summat similar would help.
Regards,
Chiefy.
Regards,
Chiefy.
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